October 26, 2008

Is Everyman A Liar?


Richard Land, president of the SBC's Ethics & Religious Liberties Commission, called Rogers the Apostle Paul of the SBC. "The amazing thing about this man is that he is the same in private as he is in public," Land said. "Who he is comes forth from his inmost self. He's humble, never haughty. Bold, never bombastic. Clear, but never cutting. Scintillating, but never sarcastic. Sanctified, but never sanctimonious."


"Who he is comes forth from his inmost self." Is this a veiled accolade? Was Adrian Rogers a product of his own self-determination? He was never haughty, bombastic, cutting, sarcastic and sanctimonious! This was said about Dr Rogers at his retirement service at Bellevue Baptist. Under pressure to give the best tribute, perhaps nervous, maybe prideful, lie (embellish the truth) in his accolade or perhaps say something that he had not really intended to say. Could this be a "pelagian slip" not meant to be understood by common ears?
Was the apostle Paul ever haughty, bombastic, cutting, sarcastic and sanctimonious? I think so and perhaps Paul would be the first to admit it. Out of his "inmost self" comes forth nothing good but lies. Romans 3: 4,10
My self produced accolades: "I am proud of my humility, bombastically bold, cutting like jagged glass, (you won't detect the long pause but my wife ordered me to go fold the clothes before guest arrive, which I promptly did!) sarcastic and sanctimonious even though I am sanctified.
Let my accolade be "sinner saved by grace"

20 comments:

Anonymous said...

Amen, Brother Charles, that's all we are, just sinners saved by grace.

Without God choosing us, we would all be going to Hell.

By the way one who is proud of his humility is NOT humble.

PWF

WatchingHISstory said...

PWF

sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm

hey, thanks for reading!

Straight Path said...

I am so sick and tired of hearing the statement "we are just sinners saved by grace." Usually, this line is spewed out by "Christians" who want to continue living any way they choose.

Jesus said "...I came not to call the RIGHTEOUS, but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:32.

There is a differentiation here made by Christ...righteous OR sinners. This is not synonymous.

When a person gets saved (REALLY saved), then he/she becomes a SAINT. The new convert then can become a "saint in sin" (7x more demons) but biblically speaking, they are NOT "sinners."

Does the Bible say, "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his SINNERS?" NO. Why not? Because SINNERS are going straight to hell. Instead, the Bible states, "Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his SAINTS." Psalms 116:15.

Have you ever heard anyone ever sing, "When the SINNERS go marching in?"

Of course not.

Straight Path said...

CP:

Thank you VERY MUCH for disabling your Bravenet pop-up. It got so annoying.

BTW, I think M.C. must have only THREATENED Bellevue with a suit. The bigwigs at Bellevue probably didn't want Bellevue's image tainted so they did the grossest thing one could ever surmise and paid M.C. off. Corrupt and evil I would say. Bellevue "higher-ups" care about no one but themselves and their big, fat wallets.

Straight Path said...

CP:

Another shocking Paul Washer sermon.

http://www.repentamerica.com/index.php?face=10%3A57%3A46+PM&on=1

WatchingHISstory said...

SP

If the simple definition holds; sinner is one who sins , will you remain a saint all day long?

Is one a saint by behavior or election?

Are we sinning saints or sanctified devils?

WatchingHISstory said...

BTW, I think M.C. must have only THREATENED Bellevue with a suit. The bigwigs at Bellevue probably didn't want Bellevue's image tainted so they did the grossest thing one could ever surmise and paid M.C. off. Corrupt and evil I would say. Bellevue "higher-ups" care about no one but themselves and their big, fat wallets.

I AGREE

This raises the question, did AR know and approve this? Does SG know? Would SG have done the same thing? (He could not now because I don't beleive they have the big bucks they once had.)

Will AR's wife come forward to clarify this?

bigdipper said...

She will come forward only if she was created to come forward. She certainly does not have a mind [will] of her own!

WatchingHISstory said...

big d

thanks for dropping by.

I believe she has a mind of her own and perhaps she could straighten out lot of this mess.

Do you think that AR knew about the $500,000?

bigdipper said...

I believe AR knew everything about everything going on at BBC. He ,among other things, was a control type leader. Whatever his reason was for the payoff I am sure at the moment he felt it the best step to take, Do I think it was the right step? No, not at all.
Thanks for the welcome and for an interesting web.

WatchingHISstory said...

If he was a control type leader, why didn't he know about Paul Williams? or...can a control type leder be approached?

bigdipper said...

if you understand the nature of these type of perverts you can understand why nothing was said outside of the home.
A control leader endeavors to control the business he leads. Controling the private lifes of his staff is another issue.
I do believe that if he had known he would have handled it quickly, legally, and open to the public. This type of behavior is a threat to the very foundation of someone's leadership. He would not have sacrificed the work he loved for perverted behavior.

WatchingHISstory said...

...so why would he, allegedly, turn around and pay someone 1/2 mil to be silent? Why not act quickly and publicly rather than secretly?

Straight Path said...

CP:

Biblically speaking, a sinner is a person who has never been born again.

A saint, on the other hand, is born-again but being in our Adamic nature has the capacity to sin. A saint should be convicted by the Holy Spirit when and if they sin.

A saint and sinner are NOT the same thing.

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Straight Path said...

CP:

Do you think it is possible PW has threatened to disinherit Chris if he chose to prosecute?

bigdipper said...

As I asked before, does anyone know if the insurance company made the payment? Also, did legal counsel for BBC advise the church to settle?

WatchingHISstory said...

exactly my thoughts today. Yours is a legit question that deserves answers to any donor's inquiry. At least it would be a relief to know that donations were not used for this payoff.

I can't even immagine that legal counsel would even be needed to settle this. It seems to be a none issue except that there is a deeper story here.